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As originally asked by Graham Ball. The company I am working with supply a part which is built into monitoring and control devices used in the medical field. None of the devices are implanted in any way. Our customer supplies the final product to the end customer. We are now going for ISO13485. The company already has ISO9001. I have been told for our type of business a DHR (Device History Record) and DHF (Device History File) are an important part of the assessment. Is this true? Looking at ISO13485, it appears the main emphasis over ISO9001 is on maintenance of the QMS system and regulatory awareness. Am I missing anything else really important? Kanwal Jit Singh Yes it is not mandatory to follow the harmonized standard, and if you chose not to then you have to prove in depth that the alternate QMS followed meets the requirements of MDD. It is therefore important to understand the difference between ISO 13485:2003 and EN ISO 13485:2012 and so also for ISO 14971: 2007 and EN ISO 14971:2012. It is better to follow the EN ISO standard to prove compliance to MDD requirements in Annex 2 and Annex 1 of MDD. However, If one follows an alternate route for conformity (depending the classification of the product) , then the appropriate route prescribed by MDD has to be complied with. The role of harmonised standardiseds cannot be relegated to the background, since they provide the easier route to evidencing conformity with the MDD. Jim Bloedau BSMT, RRT, CPHIMS Anil Bhalani If you manufacture components, ISO 13485 does not apply. ISO 9008 is more appropriate. And as a component manufacturer, having ISO 9001 certification is also not mandatory. Your customers may mandate this if you want their business. Your customer is required to assure that you have systems and procedures to assure that you will supply a good product/service. Also to make the conversation interesting, I will say this, which consultants and notified bodies will not tell you for the fear of losing revenue, I guess: ISO 13485 is not a mandatory requirement for a company selling medical devices in the USA or Europe or even if you want to obtain a CE Mark for your medical device. In the USA compliance to QSR is mandatory. In the EU, complying to Medical Device Directive (MDD) is mandatory. MDD states that the manufacturer will maintain a quality system. FDA’s QSR is a quality system or you can create a custom one too. However, if you sell medical devices in Canada, you are mandated to have an ISO 13485 system certified by a CMDCAS certified notified body (not registrar) Hope this helps…..Go with ISO 9001 until you start to make a medical device or start an activity listed in the first paragraph directly related with the design and development or manufacture of a medical device. As a battery manufacturer, you should be concerned with RoHS and WEEE and REACH. ISO 9001 is icing or I guess expected today. You should also think of ISO 14001 for a good environment. MDD, RoHS and WEEE are mandatory….they are not standards but EU Directives….equivalent to what we call laws in the USA. You can be penalized for non-compliance although there is no history of such for non-compliance to WEEE and RoHS that I know off. Tell the person who is asking you to get ISO 13485 that he is nuts! If it makes it easy, tell him that I said that he should leave the quality and regulatory business to professionals. Joseph Wilson Locke Bailey Graham Ball We won’t be doing medical trials ourselves, but if we adopt the other enhancements of ISO13485 over ISO9001 into our Quality System as a better practice together with the exclusions people have been mentioning mean we would be certified to ISO13485? David Gray If I buy in a certified Medical Device ‘A’ and buy in a certified Medical Device ‘B’, and then couple them together to make a brand new Medical Device ‘C’ with me as the new “Manufacturer”, I do not automatically have a new certified device. J. Floyd SauvĂ© – CQE, CQA Audie Margrave Dan O’Leary As a case in point, consider EN ISO 13485:2012. The Forward to the EN addition says, “In seeking compliance with the quality systems requirements of the Medical Devices Directives, organizations may exclude specific requirements from EN ISO 13485. The table below shows the exclusions that are permitted.” For the MDD, for example, the table says, “For Annex VI, exclusion of 7.3, 7.5.1, and 7.5.2 from EN ISO 13485 are permitted”. Regards, Rob Packard Rob Packard You may not claim “non-applicability” for clauses outside of Section 7. However, service companies sometimes have difficulty with certain clauses. For example, Clause 8.3 doesn’t make a lot of sense for a purely service-based company. For example, what would a CRO have a “non-conforming”? Their clinical study report? Wouldn’t that make more sense under Control of Documents or Records? In these situations, the Quality Manual should explain how this Quality System addresses the intent of these requirements. Best practices for addressing non-applicability and exclusions is two-fold: The seven most common areas of non-applicability are: 1) 7.5.1.2.2 – installation, 2) 7.5.1.2.3 – servicing, 3) 7.5.1.3 – sterilization records, 4) 7.5.2.2 – sterilization validation, 5) 7.5.3.2.2 – traceability of implants, 6) 7.5.4 – customer-owned property, and 7) 8.2.4.2 – recording the identity of implant inspectors. #7 does not follow the rules for non-applicability outlined in Clause 1.2, but it is consistent with the intent of the Clause if your company doesn’t not make medical implants. The nuances of these two terms may seem silly, but the Canadian Medical Device Regulations use this terminology as well, and most 3rd party medical device auditors will follow this interpretation–instead of the ISO 9001 interpretation. You can explain your company’s approach in Scope of the Quality Manual. Kanwal Jit Singh Apparently it is not a medical device – please check the definition of a medical device in ISO 13485 and MDD. Hence …..????? Jim Bloedau Chris Boon Technically, I believe the only element that can be an “exclusion”, would be design & development controls (7.3) , anything else that is not applicable needs to be documented as such (“not applicable”). Graham Ball many thanks – all the comments received have been really helpful and I Regards, Graham Rob Packard Dan O’Leary The DMR and the DHF are not all that similar. They have different content with some potential overlap. The DHF is the history of the design project. It has meeting minutes from design reviews, project plans, etc. When the design project is done and the product transfer to production, the DHF closes. It is the historical record from which one could reconstruct the design project. FDA QSR requires that you “assemble” all of these records together into the DHF. ISO 13485 only requires that you have the records. The DMR is the “recipe” for making the product. It has all the current purchasing specifications, production process specification, quality assurance specification, etc. The overlap between DHF and DMR is the specifications. They are design output, so could be in both places. However, updated specifications would be in the DMR, but not in the DHF; the design project would have closed before the update. {I’m avoiding design change issues for simplicity.} The DHR is the objective evidence that you followed the DMR. You will make a DHR for every unit, lot, or batch, but would there be only one DMR. For example, if you have a final acceptance test it would have been developed in design, so one version would be in the DHF. Perhaps you updated it, creating a different version in the current DMR. The test data, a quality record, showing the product passed the test is part of the DHR. Regards, Scott Tatro, PMP Here is some additional guidance for you. The Design History file contains all of the meeting notes, design drafts, risk management reports, and thought processes for the design of the device. The Device Master Record is the master documents to be able to manufacture a device. The Device History Record are the individual records when you produce the device. Here are some examples: Design History File (DHF) Content Examples: Device Master Record (DMR) Content Examples: •Manufacturing Process Specifications: (process flow charts; process/assembly lines diagrams; equipment, tools, molds; manufacturing environment specifications; operator and equipment Work Instructions (WI) setup procedures; equipment maintenance procedures; blank work orders, nonconforming product/process forms, and other reporting; quality system operational procedures (SOP); quality system forms (FM); process control specifications/charts; control plans, instructions and acceptance criteria for incoming, in-process, and finished device inspection and testing; procedures and acceptance criteria for the verification of packaging, labeling, installation, and servicing activities; blank work order forms for recording inspection/testing activities, traceability, and other data for device history records; device release review/evaluation checklists. •Packaging and labeling specifications: package drawings and specifications; filling/packaging procedures; label/labeling drawings; device instruction manuals. Device History Record (DHR) Content Examples: Graham Ball many thanks for taking the time to reply. For DHF we are Ok and understand. It is typically what we have as a The DHR is what I expected it to be, so many thanks. Best wishes and thanks again, Graham Marked as spam
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